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[Николай Николаевич Федотов]

К сожалению, Николай Николаевич, на западе сейчас активно формируется (или уже сформировался) образ нового врага - русских хакеров.

Но перед нами в очереди ещё китайцы и арабы.

Тут уж в пору говорить не об ущемлениях по территориальности а о том, что хоть бы Инет России  с другими странами вообще не перекрыли да второй холодной войны не начали.

СлабО им! Даже те страны, которым США чётко приказали Интернет перекрыть - Куба и Иран - пользуются им как ни в чём не бывало.

[Igor Michailov]

Но перед нами в очереди ещё китайцы и арабы.

А перед китайцами - талибы.  

[Ильюха]

Похоже все ленятся зайти на указаный сайт, а кто не ленится, тем строят козни агенты мирового капитализма. Ок, привожу несколько примеров.

[Ильюха]

Пример 1:

http://www.aboutpaypal.com/paypal_will_not_admit_mistake

When I first signed up my account, PayPal listed Taiwan as "prodivence of China". After 20+ e-mails requesting a correction, their answer is still ~ "close your account, and open another one." The problem is - closing my account means my $15K in that account will disappear. As PayPal allow account listed under China to transfer fund into US banks only , which I don't have.

I don't understand why a company such as PayPal won't admit its own mistake and correct it.

[Ильюха]

Пример 2:

http://www.aboutpaypal.com/paypal_did_not_cancel_my_account

I subscribed to a website on 16 September 2004 through PayPal. I was supposed to be able to download images through the subscription. I was unable to do so, so I went onto the PayPal website and cancelled the subscription.

I received a confirmation email from PayPal that my account was cancelled. I then received 2 bogus emails regarding my "paypal account" from an unknown source. I called Paypal, they confirmed the emails were bogus, and deleted my account completely at my request.

On 16 December I received an email from Paypal stating my account was being charged again for the website. I called Paypal, and was told the website owner "re-opened" my account. I asked for a refund, and was told I would have to contact the website, because it was not PayPal's fault. I was then advised by PayPal to cancel my credit card.

What kind of service is this, and is it legal?

[Ильюха]

http://www.aboutpaypal.com/paypal_malicious_prosecution

Twice Paypal has illegally raided my account and taken a total of $784.83 without investigation, notice or explanation even though response is required by federal law. They locked my account, threatened to sue me and ruin my credit. I was told by email that it was illegal to sue them because this would violate the "user agreement" which has already been ruled illegal by federal court as denial of due process and the right to be heard. Later they offered to settle the dispute for half when I told them I was filing a criminal complaint. This was an admission of liability even though they deny it. My account was locked without due process. I was told that if I prevailed in court that they would use my credit card to pay the judgement so the net affect would be that I would get nothing. This is a threatened felony in response to my legitamate request for documentation. Now they have sent my account to a collection agency in Maryland in one last effort to shut me up because they have no chance in court. They are in violation of numerous statutes, state and federal, including the EFTA, electronic funds transfer act. Know a good lawyer?

[Ильюха]

Вот другой сайт кажется того же автора
http://paypalwarning.com/

[Igor Michailov]

От себя. Вчера отписал на сайт (где продают ПО по системе PayPal) что не могу купить их ПО так как PayPal  не дружит с Россией. В ответ получил письмо, что они собираются отказаться от использования этой платежной системы. Кажись, там не так все гладко как кажется

[yuriyah]

Ильюха, а Вы не из стана конкурентов этой системы? Чего Вы так на нее ополчились? Из-за 30 у.е.?

[Igor Michailov]

Ильюха, а Вы не из стана конкурентов этой системы? Чего Вы так на нее ополчились? Из-за 30 у.е.?

Мой батя в феврале заработал 20$. Это не шутка. В России не все в Москве живут. Как Вы думаете, если бы он потерял в PayPal 30$ он бы на нее ополчился или нет.